The Biggest Cheating Scandal In Speedrunning History

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One of Minecraft's biggest youtubers Dream has been accused of cheating by the speedrunning community. Today I explain what went down and provide you with my conclusion based on my own investigation. Huge thanks to k4yfour for providing the Minecraft footage used in the run and also helping me understand more about the game. Thanks to the Minecraft speedrunners who answered some of my questions.
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  • Karl Jobst

    Karl Jobst

    2 місяці tagasi

    The video is for entertainment purposes only. Please keep conversation civil and respectable. I hope you have a great New Years.

    • KrazyBoss YT

      KrazyBoss YT

      15 päeva tagasi

      @Cornlips 4 i did. edit: i think i am the 500th person to reply since i was gonna reply to them again saying thanks but it said it was on the max replies

    • Z.R.S

      Z.R.S

      Місяць tagasi

      Ok son

    • 『LIGHT』

      『LIGHT』

      Місяць tagasi

      Well I am pretty happy for u there are only 6k dislikes so seems like many Stans didn't watch this video I guess they don't want any source of information after dream's response

    • Fattipotato79

      Fattipotato79

      Місяць tagasi

      Pog

    • LiteThing

      LiteThing

      Місяць tagasi

      @Heavenburst why? Thats dumb why would you wait untill we know the answer to reveal the answer?? Is it a test?

  • Kieks123

    Kieks123

    3 tundi tagasi

    It sucks that this whole thing has just been ignored because he is still so popular even though he is a bad person

  • God Zilla

    God Zilla

    10 tundi tagasi

    I’m late, but he was definitely talking about this video in his tweet, he just said he wasn’t referring to it to save face. I’m sure it’s the same thing he did to the mods, saying they miscalculated by MILES and made bad faith statements, but still said “it’s only an amateur mistake.” Yeah, one he claimed they made to ruin their reputation. He even blacklisted your name from his comment section, pathetic.

    • Adityard Lime

      Adityard Lime

      3 tundi tagasi

      @Yoshi The Bear yea it's been like some weeks.

    • Yoshi The Bear

      Yoshi The Bear

      3 tundi tagasi

      He actually deleted his response video if you didn’t know

  • Jason Burks

    Jason Burks

    15 tundi tagasi

    Cheaters are wack, and his smp is the worst thing to ever happen to Mc

    • DIE TRASH

      DIE TRASH

      10 tundi tagasi

      Ikr roleplay is so crinj

  • Shane Haris

    Shane Haris

    16 tundi tagasi

    i c u

  • Sander C.

    Sander C.

    19 tundi tagasi

    If people hate luck in games that much, why not make a category where this luck is removed in the files? This would make it even more skill based and makes it even more fun to speedrun. Is the game's integrity really that important to people?

    • Adityard Lime

      Adityard Lime

      3 tundi tagasi

      If there is no luck there will be no competition very very fast

    • LiteThing

      LiteThing

      10 tundi tagasi

      There is a category like that but most people like the rush they get from a good run.

  • ComputerMarioBross - LanzaPlays!

    ComputerMarioBross - LanzaPlays!

    Päev tagasi

    I had doubts on wether he cheated or not. Thank you and the speedrunning community for making this video

  • Sebishii

    Sebishii

    Päev tagasi

    didn't know that Ph1lza has speedruning channel

  • The Salty Seaman

    The Salty Seaman

    Päev tagasi

    Don’t think I didn’t see that nice

  • ✪Hidden

    ✪Hidden

    Päev tagasi

    Ngl I was never interested in speed running but I enjoy your videos

  • Lego Anakin Skywalker

    Lego Anakin Skywalker

    Päev tagasi

    Dream is slowly becoming Boogie2988.

    • Muhammad Soleh

      Muhammad Soleh

      23 tundi tagasi

      ho's Boogie2988?

  • Samuel Xie

    Samuel Xie

    2 päeva tagasi

    Can’t believe I sat through this 24 minute video without skipping. 😂

  • Soviet_Yugoslav

    Soviet_Yugoslav

    2 päeva tagasi

    The funniest thing is that dream deleted his response video because he knew he was wrong lmao

  • Meister Meme

    Meister Meme

    2 päeva tagasi

    Always love that this video didn't end with a "Did dream cheat or not? Idk you guys decide" but with Karl not giving a shit and saying yes he cheated.

    You're the man Karl

  • Charlie Boy

    Charlie Boy

    2 päeva tagasi

    So he's still hasn't come clean has he?

  • Ghosty -U-

    Ghosty -U-

    2 päeva tagasi

    Oh will the stans ever learn...

  • Dark knight

    Dark knight

    2 päeva tagasi

    I thought it said innocent or gay

  • Dev Dev

    Dev Dev

    3 päeva tagasi

    The only part I had doubt on is when you investigated blaze rod droppings. That just about matches my rate.

    • Adityard Lime

      Adityard Lime

      2 päeva tagasi

      Probability calculation is hard and it will require you to understand a lot about the chances and more but I don't think most people here know it properly so ya you might be mistaken

    • morbideddie

      morbideddie

      2 päeva tagasi

      Your probably just mistaken or miscounting.

  • Felix Jancik

    Felix Jancik

    3 päeva tagasi

    The evidence is pretty conclusive.
    Also... Comparing to normal people and comparing to speedrunners is equal properbility; if not less.

  • san dro

    san dro

    3 päeva tagasi

    11:29 haha he said sex

    • Commander Bruh-Lox i have Real Mustache

      Commander Bruh-Lox i have Real Mustache

      3 päeva tagasi

      U made me laugh i have to admit it

  • Edvard Dolderer

    Edvard Dolderer

    3 päeva tagasi

    I have seen a lot of players better than dream

    • LiteThing

      LiteThing

      9 tundi tagasi

      @Quiffle_squiffl 4456 idk petezahut and fruit berries too well but i think technoblade is debatable. Pvp he probably has the edge but dream would destroy him in a speedrun for obvious reasons.

    • Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Päev tagasi

      A few examples: technoblade fruitberries petezahutt I don’t know anyone else I don’t watch that much mc yters :(

    • Oversea Fukoshima

      Oversea Fukoshima

      2 päeva tagasi

      @Counter Tech now that's fax

    • Jeff Peng

      Jeff Peng

      2 päeva tagasi

      k

    • Counter Tech

      Counter Tech

      2 päeva tagasi

      i’ve seen a lot of people better than dream

  • Hassan Salman

    Hassan Salman

    3 päeva tagasi

    Standup Maths did a very good video on this too

  • Michael Blount

    Michael Blount

    3 päeva tagasi

    Thank you for the thorough analysis!

  • Michael Jordan

    Michael Jordan

    3 päeva tagasi

    It's a damn shame how many speed runners there are these days, too much of the crystal out here these days, damn speed runners, hopefully they run to rehab

  • DelaY

    DelaY

    3 päeva tagasi

    After all of these controversy, I still enjoy his manhunt because it's entertaining.

    • Jellyfesh

      Jellyfesh

      18 tundi tagasi

      Will he make a 5 hunter next time XD

    • Jellyfesh

      Jellyfesh

      18 tundi tagasi

      The manhunts are really boring now

    • Louiepikmin3

      Louiepikmin3

      2 päeva tagasi

      It's okay to like his content, since it is entertaining. You can totally think his content is good while still recognizing that he cheated in his speedruns

    • Jeff Peng

      Jeff Peng

      2 päeva tagasi

      yeah being staged doesn't make things less fun

    • Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      3 päeva tagasi

      The speedruns however where submitted to the leaderboards but yes the manhunts are entertaining

  • Larissa Dawn

    Larissa Dawn

    3 päeva tagasi

    I'm sorry... can someone explain to me why it matters that he cheated? like.. I can see why it would matter...but I can also see why it doesn't matter at all..... (in my opinion, of course)

    • Kieks123

      Kieks123

      3 tundi tagasi

      Because he lied to a bunch of kids and lied about breaking a recod

    • Muhammad Soleh

      Muhammad Soleh

      23 tundi tagasi

      basically it's like this: A computer play minecraft with all possibilities existed and none of them reach near Dream's luck because Dream change the drop rate

    • Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Päev tagasi

      He is stealing oppurtunities from others to get a higher place on the speedrun leaderboard.

    • Louiepikmin3

      Louiepikmin3

      2 päeva tagasi

      Because he tried to submit a cheated run to the leaderboards AND he responded terribly

    • Jonah Clements

      Jonah Clements

      3 päeva tagasi

      It's the same reason an athlete taking steroids in order to win at the Olympics matters. Because it gets in the way of people who legitimately got their skill and talent and medals.

  • Mr Birdy

    Mr Birdy

    3 päeva tagasi

    Bruh

  • Gaming Geckos

    Gaming Geckos

    4 päeva tagasi

    You really think this is the BIGGEST cheating scandal in speedrunning history?! Cheating only by changing probabilities, and only getting 4th place because of it? Really? There have been cheating scandals WAY bigger than this. Although, maybe you mean bigger as in most impactful and popular (or infamous, in this case). If that's what you mean by "biggest," then sure, that fits.

    • sometf2furry777

      sometf2furry777

      32 minutit tagasi

      it definitely is one of the biggest out there, not because of the fact he cheated but that he was an absolute piece of shit about it, insulting the mods and using his fans as a weapon against them

    • LiteThing

      LiteThing

      10 tundi tagasi

      @Gaming Geckos these people are very ignorant

    • Gaming Geckos

      Gaming Geckos

      12 tundi tagasi

      @Jellyfesh I _did_ give some examples, and I couldn’t find a way to make my comment any shorter. I don’t _want_ my comments to be long.

    • Jellyfesh

      Jellyfesh

      18 tundi tagasi

      @Gaming Geckos longer comments doesn’t make you smarter

    • Jellyfesh

      Jellyfesh

      18 tundi tagasi

      @Gaming Geckos lol give an example

  • Melissa Finley

    Melissa Finley

    4 päeva tagasi

    Joan Ginther was a woman who won 4 scratch lottery tickets in her lifetime. The probability is comparable to Dream's maximum luck calculated, the sextillions. However, I realized there's a difference between distributed physical paper over a span of months, if not years, and a PC game's RNG over a span of less than a week. Outside of world generation, does such RNG capacity even exist in Minecraft?

    • Athenri

      Athenri

      Päev tagasi

      Also Joan ginther is kind of a unique situation as she was a mathematician purposefully gaming the system

    • Melissa Finley

      Melissa Finley

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Jonah Clements Since the situation isn't of similar context, I have no scenario comparison of comparable luck happening to an individual. This and the coding anomaly leads me to believe that Dream cheated.

    • Jonah Clements

      Jonah Clements

      3 päeva tagasi

      She won 4 scratch tickets in her lifetime. But each and every attempt in a period of 6 streams, Dream had that luck consistently. So it's not the same.

    • morbideddie

      morbideddie

      3 päeva tagasi

      Yeah, the raw odds are similar but there are significant differences. The first is the number of people playing the lottery is massive, in the 100’s of millions vs the maybe 1000 active players in the mc 1.16 community. Then you have to consider that most of those players will buy more tickets than runners will do 24 hours worth of streaming. Then you have to consider that Joan likely bought thousands of tickets to get those 4 and dream only did 2 runs of streams and his second run of 6 got that level of luck. Overall the chances of getting a lottery winner with these odds is a lot more likely than Dream pulling off his run.

    • Adityard Lime

      Adityard Lime

      4 päeva tagasi

      The luck capacity probably doesn't exist

  • DJ OakeyDoakey

    DJ OakeyDoakey

    4 päeva tagasi

    The maths YT guy said if 10 billion humans do this speedrun every second for 100 years. It wouldn't have had Dreams luck.

  • grit1

    grit1

    4 päeva tagasi

    Don't see how you could be on his side besides fanboyism. Even if the luck was in fact a once in a blue moon chance which while infinitesimally small has the possibility of happening, it happened over and over again. That's all you need to see. Getting that sort of luck is possible, but happening over 24 hours isn't

    • Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Päev tagasi

      @Louiepikmin3 Ikr.

    • Louiepikmin3

      Louiepikmin3

      2 päeva tagasi

      It's very possible for something insanely rare to happen. But for it to happen so consistently is just a big red flag

    • FBI Agent #4278

      FBI Agent #4278

      2 päeva tagasi

      Well put

  • Kevin Avelino

    Kevin Avelino

    4 päeva tagasi

    16:17
    "They vheat to get a time, faster"

    So.. I'm just finished stardew valley in 2 days because my luck is absolutely garbage.
    And yes, this theory was right.

    • zxcvbnm

      zxcvbnm

      4 päeva tagasi

      *vheat*

  • Jimbrial Innocent

    Jimbrial Innocent

    4 päeva tagasi

    Shame. Though I'm still not sure. Matjimatically impossible and completely impossible are different. The evidence said he cheated though. I wish I knew more about this sort of thing to form a solid opinion.

    • Louiepikmin3

      Louiepikmin3

      2 päeva tagasi

      The thing is, he didn't just get insanely lucky once or twice. He had abnormally high luck consistently throughout a total of 24 hours. If it was one insane run, I'd believe it. But the fact that it happened consistently means something is most likely wrong

    • Fluffy White Llama

      Fluffy White Llama

      4 päeva tagasi

      His odds are 1 in 20 sextillion, which is so absurdly small that it's really the only evidence you need to say that he cheated. I'd recommend Stand up Maths video if you haven't watched it already since it goes into great detail about everything.

  • MrOvergryph

    MrOvergryph

    5 päeva tagasi

    Dream posts videos featuring hacked Minecraft clients all the time. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8poIHewFgTM He knew he was cheating in that speed run. He augmented the drop rates in the game, and, more importantly, he "coded it himself." He can't be trusted for legitimate speed runs if he has a history of hacking the game. His "dumb luck" in that run is actually MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, and for Dream to claim it was legit and "he had no idea he was playing an edited version of Minecraft" is just utter bullshit.

  • Demo_the _man

    Demo_the _man

    5 päeva tagasi

    Honestly still fuck Dream. He gave us the goddamned Glowsquid instead of one of the cooler/more useful mobs.

    • Blank

      Blank

      2 päeva tagasi

      @Lu_ne Yep it just sits down and dies for literally a stupid reason

    • Louiepikmin3

      Louiepikmin3

      2 päeva tagasi

      And apparently the moobloom could've changed farming, which would've been such a huge change. I was team moobloom all the way, but I would've been fine with either, as long as it wasn't a mob that had little to no idea outside of things that could've been used with other items

    • Lu_ne

      Lu_ne

      2 päeva tagasi

      @Blank ikr glow squid does nothing cool other than the item frame glow up

    • Blank

      Blank

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Lu_ne I just wanted a more colorful Minecraft with the moobloom

    • Lu_ne

      Lu_ne

      4 päeva tagasi

      give me the flower cow :(

  • HWR ATJ

    HWR ATJ

    5 päeva tagasi

    The really shitty thing is, it's still possible that it's legit.






    But it isn't.

  • the DOOM

    the DOOM

    5 päeva tagasi

    I mean math says he cheated but why ,as you said will probably never be addressed but i see why a lot of hes fans think he didn't cheat because hes speed run didn't give him recognition to be worth it

  • The Kevin

    The Kevin

    5 päeva tagasi

    Dream: If you disagree with me, argue with the math
    Also Dream when someone argued with the math: *SHADOWBANNED SHADOWBANNED SHADOWBANNED*

    • The Holy C.I.A

      The Holy C.I.A

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Muhammad Soleh lol yeah

    • Muhammad Soleh

      Muhammad Soleh

      4 päeva tagasi

      Also Dream when Stans Hunter duplicated themselves: *Imma private my response*

    • Never out pizza the hut

      Never out pizza the hut

      5 päeva tagasi

      Tiananmen square all over again

  • Zack Lepplin

    Zack Lepplin

    5 päeva tagasi

    Not defending dream here I do think he cheated, but I just want to share something. I found 3 spinda in Pokémon x with the exact same pattern in a hoard with another one (not same pattern) being shiny so you know, it was great.

    • Zack Lepplin

      Zack Lepplin

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Muhammad Soleh thanks

    • Muhammad Soleh

      Muhammad Soleh

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Zack Lepplin cool

    • Zack Lepplin

      Zack Lepplin

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Muhammad Soleh I found three and shiny one

    • Zack Lepplin

      Zack Lepplin

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Muhammad Solehthe chance of finding two spinda alone is over 4 billion

    • Zack Lepplin

      Zack Lepplin

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Muhammad Soleh I did the math it’s 3.24519 to the 32cd power

  • Ifarmplasma

    Ifarmplasma

    5 päeva tagasi

    *14:13** "Now, we are going to look at simulations" then I get 2 ads lol*

  • Ifarmplasma

    Ifarmplasma

    5 päeva tagasi

    *69% "Nice"*
    *1 in 20 sextillion "Nice"*

  • kinyt3

    kinyt3

    5 päeva tagasi

    Me clicking on this video not knowing if it is a joke or not.

    • The Holy C.I.A

      The Holy C.I.A

      5 päeva tagasi

      Nope dream cheated

  • BlankLit

    BlankLit

    5 päeva tagasi

    dream actually admitted it and apologized vastly for it.

    • Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Päev tagasi

      IDGAF about a apology bruh.

    • Muhammad Soleh

      Muhammad Soleh

      4 päeva tagasi

      where

    • Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      4 päeva tagasi

      Where

    • sense122

      sense122

      5 päeva tagasi

      really? where? I can't find it anywhere.

    • Riko Vladimir

      Riko Vladimir

      5 päeva tagasi

      what video ?

  • Big Smoke

    Big Smoke

    6 päeva tagasi

    11:29 nice

  • Big Smoke

    Big Smoke

    6 päeva tagasi

    11:08 nice

  • Owen Stuart

    Owen Stuart

    6 päeva tagasi

    I don't really care if dream cheats. I just like watching him prank his friends on 1 Vs 4 Hunters

  • Wyatt Easterly

    Wyatt Easterly

    6 päeva tagasi

    Idk. Games are weird. Looks at dark souls 3. There is a item in it called proof of concord kept that has an abysmal drop rate. Like 3%. You need to collect 30 of them and I only had to kill 157 knights to get all 30. Thats like a 20% drop rate. No altering to my game. I know some people who have been farming that item for weeks or even months. I got super super lucky

    • Wyatt Easterly

      Wyatt Easterly

      5 päeva tagasi

      @september but yeah. I know dreams odd are ridiculous and understand that. I was just sharing an experience where I had insane luck where I had a 20% drop rate on 3% drop rate item.

    • Wyatt Easterly

      Wyatt Easterly

      5 päeva tagasi

      @september yes. Even with my item discovery symbol of avarice, rusted coins and the ring the drop rate is like 3%. Normally its like 1%. I know people who farmed POCK for literally weeks and with the same set up and only got like 5 of that covenant item

    • september

      september

      5 päeva tagasi

      were you wearing any rings/mimic helmet that might’ve improved your odds? but this is more like if you played dark souls 11 times and got those results as an average across all those playthroughs if dream just had 1 run where he got an exceptional amount of pearl trades, no one would accuse him of cheating. the reason the odds are so low is because it happened over the course of many runs.

  • Switch & Music

    Switch & Music

    6 päeva tagasi

    itsss calllledd do you know the word "luck"

    • Brady King

      Brady King

      2 päeva tagasi

      Itssss calllledd do you know the word "simulations"

    • Counter Tech

      Counter Tech

      2 päeva tagasi

      someone didn’t watch the video 👀 fucking dream stan

    • Blank

      Blank

      3 päeva tagasi

      I got 11 blaze rods out of 12 blazes "Its just luck" -Dream 2020

    • MilitantPacifist

      MilitantPacifist

      4 päeva tagasi

      let me put the "luck" into perspective, Let's say there are 10 billion humans on earth, each on of them completed the sequence of 6 streams within a second, without sleeping without breaks just every single second they'd bang out these 6 streams, they'd need to do that for 100 thousand years such that one of them got a sequence of runs as lucky or luckier than dream. ok? this isn't "luck" those are astronomical odds.

    • william82007

      william82007

      5 päeva tagasi

      @KingChicken shit

  • Aaron Loesch

    Aaron Loesch

    6 päeva tagasi

    his manhunt vids are fake af too and its sooo obvious

    • Outcastsage9033

      Outcastsage9033

      8 tundi tagasi

      @DIE TRASH it's called perspective, you're watching the pov of dream but the hunters don't know dream's hp

    • DIE TRASH

      DIE TRASH

      10 tundi tagasi

      @Outcastsage9033 when dream is on half a heart, the hunters run away. The hunters are just noons too

    • Jellyfesh

      Jellyfesh

      18 tundi tagasi

      @Outcastsage9033 lol dreams runs are scripted and fake

    • Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Päev tagasi

      @Outcastsage9033 so pretty much the hunters are noobs then. They literally get baited super easily with the traps that dream does. They also suck at pvp

    • Outcastsage9033

      Outcastsage9033

      Päev tagasi

      ​@Aaron Loesch 'nobody crafts invisible pots' *well do people in speed runs have 3-4 players attempting to hunt them down?* 'Neither do you take exactly 3 boats with you to the nether just in case you need to jump 15 blocks of lava' *Well you most likely would consider it if 3 people had enchanted amour/weapons and have the intent of killing you*

  • Just Another Youtube Channel

    Just Another Youtube Channel

    7 päeva tagasi

    The best luck in minecraft I’ve ever managed to get is 64/1,000,000,000. Or 64 in a trillion, hopefully I wrote that number of zeros right. I traded 4 ingots with 4 piglins and got 4 ender pearls each time, giving me 16 ender pearls and no other items as I only did 4 trades. The luck might be even more than I determined, as I just determined the probability of getting 2-4 ender pearls, and I got 4 each time which is an extra RNG roll which I didn’t use in my calculations as I don’t know the details. It’s crazy that dream achieved such immense luck and it seems clear that he cheated, if he didn’t then his stream was the luckiest moment in human history. It’s a real shame that Dream didn’t just admit to it and apologise. Speedrunning officially or not, he has a good YouTube career by now from his SMP and other videos, and even if he lost some fans for cheating he’d probably still he set for years and could maybe even rebuild his speedrunning trust. But looking at the way he responded, it seems like he’s gonna be in a lot of trouble. Unfortunately, quite a lot of people seem to think he didn’t cheat, partially due to youtubers who benefit from him don’t want to admit it.

    • Just Another Youtube Channel

      Just Another Youtube Channel

      6 päeva tagasi

      Abhigyan Dutta True. If I was trying to prove something I’d need much more data.

    • Abhigyan Dutta

      Abhigyan Dutta

      6 päeva tagasi

      That is not the correct way though. You can't really use such a small sample size

  • Jake Helton

    Jake Helton

    7 päeva tagasi

    if he had changed the odds there would have been more pearls in the portal there is a 10% chance of them spawning in there and only 1 spawned and if the other odds we increased by about 15% then that men’s 1 in 4 of the pearls would have spawned meaning atleast 3 pearls would have spawned therefore he was lucky but he couldn’t have cheated because while increasing one odd you increase the rng in the rest of the game

    • sometf2furry777

      sometf2furry777

      28 minutit tagasi

      thats literally not how it works in the slightest

    • Louiepikmin3

      Louiepikmin3

      2 päeva tagasi

      You clearly know nothing about minecraft. The number of eyes in the portal is dependant on the seed, which isn't something you can change. What you can change, however, are drop rates of different items

    • Adam Hennessy

      Adam Hennessy

      6 päeva tagasi

      You do know that the amount of eyes of ender in the portal is based off the seed itself, right?

    • Aaron Loesch

      Aaron Loesch

      6 päeva tagasi

      dude go to school goddamn

    • morbideddie

      morbideddie

      6 päeva tagasi

      That’s not how that works, that’s not how any of this works.

  • AYVEN RYAN JAMES Moe

    AYVEN RYAN JAMES Moe

    7 päeva tagasi

    any allegations against dream is just fucking ineffective, his stans will just defend him in any way possible. even if dream recorded himself murdering a guy his fans will still not believe it

    • Louiepikmin3

      Louiepikmin3

      2 päeva tagasi

      Nah his fans would believe it and they'd just defend it

    • The Holy C.I.A

      The Holy C.I.A

      7 päeva tagasi

      Fact

  • Sean O'Reilly

    Sean O'Reilly

    7 päeva tagasi

    Minecraft is the only game i have ever seen where i simply don't get the big deal

  • Sir Troglodyte

    Sir Troglodyte

    8 päeva tagasi

    I love things got so serious! 15:20
    And thanks to Karl for explaining how Minecraft works (no sarcasm here, never played this game :))

    • Zendrive -

      Zendrive -

      4 päeva tagasi

      @S𒈙𒐪C𒈙𒐪A𒈙𒐪𒈙𒐪R𒈙L𒐪E𒈙T𒈙K𒐪I𒈙N𒐪G𒈙W𒐪I𒈙L𒐪L𒈙R𒐪I𒈙S𒐪E𒈙!𒐪! another unverified user I don’t know

    • S𒈙𒐪C𒈙𒐪A𒈙𒐪𒈙𒐪R𒈙L𒐪E𒈙T𒈙K𒐪I𒈙N𒐪G𒈙W𒐪I𒈙L𒐪L𒈙R𒐪I𒈙S𒐪E𒈙!𒐪!

      S𒈙𒐪C𒈙𒐪A𒈙𒐪𒈙𒐪R𒈙L𒐪E𒈙T𒈙K𒐪I𒈙N𒐪G𒈙W𒐪I𒈙L𒐪L𒈙R𒐪I𒈙S𒐪E𒈙!𒐪!

      7 päeva tagasi

      Another verified EElongr I don't know

    • AtheoGaming07

      AtheoGaming07

      8 päeva tagasi

      Yessir

  • Arlo - Resident Ad Farmer

    Arlo - Resident Ad Farmer

    8 päeva tagasi

    pro tip: sort the comments by new to find all the stans lmao

    • Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Päev tagasi

      I sorted by newest and didnt find stans, only people very high above the iq of "DREAM STAN / 9 Y/O"

    • ksks

      ksks

      7 päeva tagasi

      I sorted the comment to newest first to find your comment

  • jaz dashti

    jaz dashti

    8 päeva tagasi

    How lil I give for a fuck about it all

    • Brady King

      Brady King

      2 päeva tagasi

      "I don't care but I will still comment that I don't so I get attention"

    • Wii Remote

      Wii Remote

      6 päeva tagasi

      Then why are you here?

  • The Vanguard

    The Vanguard

    8 päeva tagasi

    Dream cheated for self preservation. The anonymous report was pre meditated as he no doubt knew it would come out one day - hence why it was so full of mistakes. It was rushed, chopped together thinking that they would baffle to problem with confusion in numbers and the problem would go away. He was too concerned on getting the perfect run online - to get that title, that recognition - that when his cover blew, his explanation was torn to shreds by actual professionals. The facts here are compliant with all regulatory bodies involved. 100% sound, because the channel demands it - anyone that believes that this is legitimate RNG, is as ignorant as Dream himself for thinking ghat he would get away with it.

  • LENA JONES

    LENA JONES

    8 päeva tagasi

    This is just sad. At first I tried to find a way to ignore this issue, but I can´t anymore. I thought he made entertaining videos, and he is very talented, and the Dream SMP is wonderful, but he just ruined his career.

  • Cruz Coronado

    Cruz Coronado

    8 päeva tagasi

    I tried to run minecraft. I accidentally closed it.

  • Raymond

    Raymond

    8 päeva tagasi

    New wr

  • Valerie Scarlett

    Valerie Scarlett

    8 päeva tagasi

    did he delete his response video? 😅

    • The Holy C.I.A

      The Holy C.I.A

      7 päeva tagasi

      @LiteThing he got bertayed by his own astro lol

    • LiteThing

      LiteThing

      8 päeva tagasi

      Yes the math matician changed his mind and redid his math. So dream didnt want to spread false info i assume

    • The Holy C.I.A

      The Holy C.I.A

      8 päeva tagasi

      Yes

  • TrustedSoul

    TrustedSoul

    9 päeva tagasi

    I mean, its all luck based. Odds can be low but never zero.

    • Dackpack

      Dackpack

      8 päeva tagasi

      I don’t know about it being impossible, but it’s ridiculously unlikely. Are you saying that he actually got a 1/7.5 trillion chance legitimately? Even dream himself says that if the odds are 1/7.5 trillion then he definitely cheated. He only argues that the math is wrong, when it’s not. Dream mathematician calculated 1/100 million odds, and still says that that provides very strong evidence that dream cheated. Dream also says that with 1/100 mil odds that the most reasonable conclusion was that he cheated. Anyway, if you want to argue with dream and his PhD man, despite trying to be on their side, then consider this. “The odds are low but never zero” you say. There’s an old joke that “the odds of Shaquille O’Neal hunting you down are low... but never zero”. Do you ever check behind you for Shaq? No of course not, but there’s a chance. There’s also a chance that the next time you go outside a 10 mile wide meteor hits you. Again there’s a chance but do you ever even think about that. Maybe your parents are evil robot spies sent from another galaxy. There’s a chance. No one legitimately considers these things, just like no logical person considers that dream legitimately got his odds. He cheated.

    • just a guy

      just a guy

      8 päeva tagasi

      His luck is impossible in the game codes.

  • Blank

    Blank

    9 päeva tagasi

    Green blob can't beat the game without cheats xd

    • Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Just_A_Black_And_Grey_Campfire

      Päev tagasi

      lmao imagine cheating in a block game and stealing chances for others to be on the leaderboard.

  • LJ G

    LJ G

    9 päeva tagasi

    That computer does kwik matches

  • Andrew

    Andrew

    9 päeva tagasi

    When it was 11:09 you said nice to 69.you like the youtuber 69?

  • Omiko Lomsadze

    Omiko Lomsadze

    9 päeva tagasi

    mathematically impossible is the most wrong thing you said, other then that good points

    • JustCole

      JustCole

      Päev tagasi

      @Kiblord Are you dumb or illiterate I know that's the point my comments in this thread make.

    • Jason Hydrea・10 years ago

      Jason Hydrea・10 years ago

      8 päeva tagasi

      He never actually said that it was mathematically impossible.

    • morbideddie

      morbideddie

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Omiko Lomsadze "for all intents and purposes mathematically impossible" so he didnt say the rates were mathematically impossible... whats your problem here? Sure if you strip away all context he would be wrong but listening to the clip everything Karl said is correct, Dreams luck was for all intents and purposes mathematically impossible.

    • Omiko Lomsadze

      Omiko Lomsadze

      8 päeva tagasi

      @morbideddie 20:25 and im not trying to be controversial here, im just mad at the words "mathematically impossible" when it comes to rates and such

    • morbideddie

      morbideddie

      8 päeva tagasi

      When did he say that the drop rates were mathematically impossible?

  • The Scream Guy

    The Scream Guy

    9 päeva tagasi

    Tbh I don’t care if dream cheated or not I just don’t like him

  • Monke

    Monke

    10 päeva tagasi

    I don’t trust the internet

  • Mueller games

    Mueller games

    10 päeva tagasi

    I’m back hi to the people who insaulted me just because I like minecraft

  • Renewings

    Renewings

    10 päeva tagasi

    nah he just has a rlly good gaming chair

    • DIE TRASH

      DIE TRASH

      10 tundi tagasi

      This is an overused dumb comment

    • FishTaco

      FishTaco

      7 päeva tagasi

      Wow this is the funniest most original comment I’ve ever heard

    • Aiden Culbert

      Aiden Culbert

      9 päeva tagasi

      Source: just trust me bro

    • Hi there I am Mark

      Hi there I am Mark

      10 päeva tagasi

      not funny anymore

  • Grey Area

    Grey Area

    11 päeva tagasi

    One thing I can't stand that has risen in light of this recent scandal, all the boot licking apologists.

  • Planetdune

    Planetdune

    11 päeva tagasi

    To be fair, I don't think luck is really a good metric of skill... being lucky or not, or having to grind 100's of hours just to get a certain drop isn't any presentation of skill. Just patience.

  • Buttery Peanut

    Buttery Peanut

    11 päeva tagasi

    Its still possible for it to happen, regardless if you can replicate or not

    • Buttery Peanut

      Buttery Peanut

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Quiffle_squiffl 4456 false statement

    • Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      3 päeva tagasi

      @Buttery Peanut meaning it isn’t possible

    • Buttery Peanut

      Buttery Peanut

      7 päeva tagasi

      @Quiffle_squiffl 4456 thanks for telling us what we already know

    • Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Buttery Peanut 1 in 20 sextillion is waaaaaaay two little to even get multiple times. 1 sextillion is already 21 zeros

    • Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Buttery Peanut again possible =/= feasible

  • Riccardo Orlando

    Riccardo Orlando

    11 päeva tagasi

    The most depressing thing is that after this scandal I can no longer enjoy his Manhunt videos.
    They always seemed to me a bit too conveniently entertaining, even considering they are usually cut, but I was willing to believe they weren't staged. Now, though...
    The sad thing is, if Dream clearly stated that these Manhunt videos were staged to some degree, I'd still watch them.

    • Jellytinn Roller

      Jellytinn Roller

      9 päeva tagasi

      I hate the fact that he tries to debunk anyone that says they're fake and then ends up getting that person sent tons of hate, and then there's all those videos about it that are something along the lines of "Dream just DESTROYED Manhunt Accusations..." even though they're obviously fake.

    • Riccardo Orlando

      Riccardo Orlando

      11 päeva tagasi

      @Eiennai / I know. I wish Dream didn't have to keep claiming they are magically spontaneous. I remember watching some rando's analysis of the manhunt videos to see if they're staged, and Dream's "response" video where he "owned" the first guy. Distasteful.

    • Eiennai /

      Eiennai /

      11 päeva tagasi

      Of course they are, but that's no biggie, most entertainment is staged, you would need to have some god tier entertainment skills to spontaneously make amazing streams/videos every single time. Not even the best entertainers in the world can do that.

  • J Heil H Uerta

    J Heil H Uerta

    11 päeva tagasi

    Plot twist: he's actually just lucky.
    1 in a Million there's still 1 in that million means it's not impossible

    • Louiepikmin3

      Louiepikmin3

      2 päeva tagasi

      Even the fake odds that dream made up were 1 in 100 million. I have no idea where you got 1 in a million from

    • Lil Hitler

      Lil Hitler

      8 päeva tagasi

      @J Heil H Uerta well dream deleted his response cause it got debunked on reddit so hard But if i say that stans will probably be scarred

    • Lars

      Lars

      9 päeva tagasi

      Then why would he have deleted his response

    • Skeet Xeeter

      Skeet Xeeter

      9 päeva tagasi

      @J Heil H Uerta Technically nothing is impossible, but that’s not a very good defense when your speed run is being investigated. There’s such a thing as “statistically impossible;” the chances aren’t 0, but it’s so incredibly unlikely that for all intents and purposes it’s impossible. Have you heard of Occam’s Razor? What’s more plausible of an answer: Dream beat a 1 in 7.5 TRILLION odds or he cheated to get a better time?

    • just a guy

      just a guy

      10 päeva tagasi

      @J Heil H Uerta It's proven impossible in the game codes

  • MythicalMyste 01

    MythicalMyste 01

    11 päeva tagasi

    19:23 ah! the nostalgic gta vice city music!

  • PringlePenguin

    PringlePenguin

    11 päeva tagasi

    I'm scared that people genuinely believe that dream didnt cheat...

    • Alex Richardson

      Alex Richardson

      Päev tagasi

      @FishTaco it's not 100 hours it's 11 streams of about 2h each, 5 of which were investigated

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      7 päeva tagasi

      @FishTaco also he didn’t seem so surprised about it he literally knows how to reset the code of Minecraft

    • FishTaco

      FishTaco

      7 päeva tagasi

      @Trump Pence yeah that might be true but that was a one time thing, we are accounting his multiple stream witch is about 100 hours of gameplay

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Lil Hitler yep

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Max Davis idk when but a person found a rarer mob which featured a baby zombie villager riding a chicken with full enchanted diamond armor and an enchanted iron sword

  • Alec Young

    Alec Young

    12 päeva tagasi

    18:23 Except for Ark players... I think the person whos played the most has 2 years in game time.
    It came out in 2015...

  • Faiqa Adhiarja

    Faiqa Adhiarja

    12 päeva tagasi

    what this youtuber was on the newspaper for speedrunning goldeneye wow

  • William

    William

    12 päeva tagasi

    I know I'm late, but I love this guy's personality.

  • Kavrana Programming Tutorials

    Kavrana Programming Tutorials

    12 päeva tagasi

    To any dream stans reading this, 1 in 20 sextillion is an astronomically low likelihood, here's an example.
    Load up a fresh new Minecraft world and try to guess the seed first try. The chances of that are 1 in 18 quintillion which is almost 1 thousand times less than 20 sextillion

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      11 päeva tagasi

      Also, you could ride as many planes as it takes for 15 of them to crash before getting dreams odds

  • RagerQueue487

    RagerQueue487

    12 päeva tagasi

    Dream manhunt - Not scripted and not cheating
    Dream speedrun - like are you speedrunning clue and got WR?

    • monke

      monke

      Päev tagasi

      @Quiffle_squiffl 4456 It was an assumption, If you're SO offended by it then sorry, It won't happen again, It's just that most dream stans say that same thing.

    • Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Päev tagasi

      @monke saying he isn’t a noob or that he didn’t cheat makes me a Stan? Dream definitely faked his speedruns but he is still really good at some versions of pvp and he is insane at parkour too. Believing dream doesn’t cheat doesn’t automatically make me a stan either

    • Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      Quiffle_squiffl 4456

      2 päeva tagasi

      @monke I literally said his manhunts are either fake or the hunters are noobs. I don’t stan dream at all I know his speedruns are fake

    • monke

      monke

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Quiffle_squiffl 4456 Okay you dreamy stan, Keep believing in the cheater like odds from 1 to 7 trillon are still possible. In game codes is impossible.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      9 päeva tagasi

      @Quiffle_squiffl 4456 Ok

  • JRock

    JRock

    12 päeva tagasi

    I've been reading the comments for over an hour now, this has been the most I've ever laughed and facepalmed. Truly one of the best and worst comment sections on youtube.

    • Anturified

      Anturified

      12 päeva tagasi

      good

  • wingedarr0w

    wingedarr0w

    12 päeva tagasi

    Either he cheated, or the game's psuedo random is not very good. There are other games where the psuedo random has problems (e.g. pity timers). I have a feeling that someone would have noticed if it is an error in the game's code.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      11 päeva tagasi

      Well Dream is the only one so far to have gotten these odds

    • Abhigyan Dutta

      Abhigyan Dutta

      12 päeva tagasi

      Pseudo random generators of coding languages are probably written by experts which is used by game developers. So no mistakes in that one.

  • Jipesnl

    Jipesnl

    12 päeva tagasi

    I mean... ur claim is also misleading. He had too little pearls, which could also be a reason for getting to the portal faster (not waiting for more). However, I do still agree that his luck is abysmally rare, and that he likely cheated

    • Abhigyan Dutta

      Abhigyan Dutta

      12 päeva tagasi

      No. This is misleading. Although I don't watch speedruns most people probably assume 1-2 ender pearls will be there or they will find an enderman easily in the strong hold. Both of which didn't happen here, it is a calculated risk.

  • emarythomp

    emarythomp

    13 päeva tagasi

    I really like how you actually came to a conclusion rather then just saying “Oh well in conclusion I don’t know it’s left up to interpretation and how you feel har har.” I’m so sick of analysis videos doing that to seem as safe as possible.

  • JEAN-PAUL RAMOS-CLAUDIO

    JEAN-PAUL RAMOS-CLAUDIO

    13 päeva tagasi

    “Hello you absolute legends. Speed running”
    Thunderous clapping and cheering ensues

  • SmellsLikeAnvil

    SmellsLikeAnvil

    13 päeva tagasi

    at least he did not cheat on *all* of his speedruns

    • SmellsLikeAnvil

      SmellsLikeAnvil

      7 päeva tagasi

      @Leonardo Van Gogh yeah that is the bad thing

    • Leonardo Van Gogh

      Leonardo Van Gogh

      7 päeva tagasi

      cheating isnt the problem lol, could've just apologized, but instead he maniputed his fanbase and then also weaponized them against his exposers

    • Re Covered

      Re Covered

      11 päeva tagasi

      This puts a bad name on the whole community. Hopefully more cheated runs don’t come out, as this has already led a lot of people to say stuff like: I mean, most runs are fake

    • SmellsLikeAnvil

      SmellsLikeAnvil

      12 päeva tagasi

      @Abhigyan Dutta i know and i *fully* agree with you, using the good authority to cover up bad things is bad

    • Abhigyan Dutta

      Abhigyan Dutta

      12 päeva tagasi

      Cheating isn't the problem. Herding his underage fans (and I pretty much know you are one, from the wording you use) is a big problem. You are not old enough to understand how bad of a thing this actually is. When you grow old and if a situation arises where you need to manipulate a child then you'll see how it jolts your conscience which dream clearly has none.

  • SmellsLikeAnvil

    SmellsLikeAnvil

    13 päeva tagasi

    guys plz forget about it or not mention it anymore
    edit: i am not a stan , i am just being frustrated because of this scandal and the previous one where drem (not dream) caught on cheating too, and i do not seriously care about it, it just pops up on me too much

    • The Destructive Gamer

      The Destructive Gamer

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Lil Hitler yea, he has matured a lot and move on

    • Lil Hitler

      Lil Hitler

      8 päeva tagasi

      Drem changed hes a pretty chill guy i talked to him on discord But stans still atacking

    • The Destructive Gamer

      The Destructive Gamer

      11 päeva tagasi

      @Good Door dude this is so true

    • Matias Hueichao

      Matias Hueichao

      11 päeva tagasi

      @Arunabh Thakuria i wasn't talking just bout him, it was in general, i think i didint explain myself enough

    • Arunabh Thakuria

      Arunabh Thakuria

      11 päeva tagasi

      @Matias Hueichao he is completely fine right now; not enough people actually care/too many people defend him for him to actually lose anything, what are you even talking about

  • Comical Sans

    Comical Sans

    13 päeva tagasi

    The defense has no objections, your honor.

  • James Garrison

    James Garrison

    14 päeva tagasi

    The thing about Speedrunning is that you don’t only need skill, but you also need luck. The bad part about it is that you’re going to have to be lucky, however, when you’re lucky, there’s always going to be somebody who doubts that you’re THAT lucky. So the difficulty about Speedrunning isn’t the luck, it’s the people who think otherwise.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      13 päeva tagasi

      @morbideddie ikr

    • morbideddie

      morbideddie

      13 päeva tagasi

      Let’s be honest, there’s a massive difference between the kind of luck required to get a wr run and dreams luck, they aren’t even on the same planet. If you don’t think dream cheated you simply don’t understand just how crazy his odds were.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      13 päeva tagasi

      Every since the nether update people will always have suspicions about speed runs because of the new piglins. But I do think Dream cheated because his odds of those bartering trades are 59 in 20 sextillion

  • D3adK3V1n Catches scammers

    D3adK3V1n Catches scammers

    15 päeva tagasi

    All I care is that it wasn’t technoblade

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      10 päeva tagasi

      @The Destructive Gamer same

    • The Destructive Gamer

      The Destructive Gamer

      10 päeva tagasi

      @Trump Pence even if techno was a speedrunner and he cheated, I'm pretty sure he would atleast admit it and come clean unlike dream

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      13 päeva tagasi

      He doesn’t speedrun but still a good comment

  • YamiJustin

    YamiJustin

    15 päeva tagasi

    Let me guess. This POS youtuber got away with it basically Scott free

    • The man behind the bruh moment

      The man behind the bruh moment

      9 päeva tagasi

      Yeah

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      14 päeva tagasi

      @YamiJustin ok

    • YamiJustin

      YamiJustin

      14 päeva tagasi

      @Trump Pence well I wouldn’t even consider watching him unless he fessed up that’s just me tho

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      14 päeva tagasi

      I’m a fan of dream not for haha he is but because I like his manhunt videos and the reason who got away with it was because of his 9 year old stans who can’t do math

  • Aaron Rashid

    Aaron Rashid

    15 päeva tagasi

    Dream here is morally wrong. While I do enjoy his content, it is hard to watch someone fake it till they make it here.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      5 päeva tagasi

      @Cornysz yep

    • Cornysz

      Cornysz

      5 päeva tagasi

      tbh idc about fake speedrunning, look at other dream's content (Minecraft, but ... ), it's very enjoyable to watch, even with his team like george etc. That's why his subs increase so fast.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      14 päeva tagasi

      Same

  • Your Mother

    Your Mother

    15 päeva tagasi

    1 in sextillion?? "So you're saying there's a chance..."

    • monke

      monke

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Scottyboi SUS r/ihavereddit

    • Brady King

      Brady King

      10 päeva tagasi

      Yeah Lloyd

    • Anturified

      Anturified

      12 päeva tagasi

      @Scottyboi SUS r/screw you with your overused "r/woooosh"

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      13 päeva tagasi

      @Scottyboi SUS that’s not what r/woosh means but ok

    • Scottyboi SUS

      Scottyboi SUS

      14 päeva tagasi

      @Your Mother r/whoosh lmao

  • hahaha benis XDDD

    hahaha benis XDDD

    15 päeva tagasi

    Minecraft speedrunning is over, the only thing Dream did "wrong" was mod his game to accommodate a level of "luck" which was extremely improbable.
    Now all that is required is to mod minecraft as a corrupt speedrunner to produce the items necessary to complete certain phases of the speedrun with the most believable yet useful level of probability.
    That's it, thanks to piglins in part, minecraft speedrunning in 1.16+ will always be suspicious.

    • hahaha benis XDDD

      hahaha benis XDDD

      7 päeva tagasi

      @ayyubstergold Great thanks for telling me and being so polite about it considering I'm not in this community, I think those should be mandatory because this is what happens when they're not.

    • ayyubstergold

      ayyubstergold

      10 päeva tagasi

      @hahaha benis XDDD there are set seed speed runs you can watch you know.

    • hahaha benis XDDD

      hahaha benis XDDD

      13 päeva tagasi

      Personally I think speedrunning is just kind of silly, but people are allowed to do it as pastime, but what Dream really did which wasn't bad is highlight the fact that the more competitive you get with this, the more likely people are going to cheat. MC needs more distinct criteria for speedrunning because what this cheat run highlights is that RNG can totally fuck up a run, and if 50% of your time is determined by RNG, then where's the skill factoring in? Honestly, I get his logic, what he was trying to do was to mitigate the luck based element of minecraft speedrunning to see where his raw skills could take him. That being said, he should have given more disclosure about this instead of trying to get an "official" time. I personally think that minecraft speedrunning is a complete farce if you don't have categories based on the seed and spawn point. The luck element in speedrunning is too much in minecraft and basically can turn an excellent display of skills and turn it into a wasted effort, this I think was his logic behind trying to mitigate the RNG, but yeah, shouldn't have branded a modded run as legit.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      14 päeva tagasi

      @Scottyboi SUS what did he do so wrong?

    • Scottyboi SUS

      Scottyboi SUS

      14 päeva tagasi

      At least it shines light onto the possible ways one might cheat this speedrun. And his actions shouldnt be minimized

  • Real Ruski

    Real Ruski

    15 päeva tagasi

    I love dreams content....but he should come clean as an honest man

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      9 päeva tagasi

      @tasen25 i guess dream stan community is just a bunch of shit 9 year olds but the Kpop stan community in my opinion is way worse because there music sucks first of all and they are just so weird and defensive of them

    • tasen25 i guess

      tasen25 i guess

      9 päeva tagasi

      I liked dream's content before but then i quitted not only because he cheated but the entire MCYT Fandom just being idiotic and garbage it turned into those stupid Kpop Stans community, making tik toks and shipping them. This is just disgusting

    • just a guy

      just a guy

      13 päeva tagasi

      @Trump Pence and that, is why the words "overrated" & "underrated" exist.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      13 päeva tagasi

      @just a guy oh I thought you were talking about his piglin drop rates. But yeah he gets like 100k subs everyday and I don’t know how he is this popular

    • just a guy

      just a guy

      13 päeva tagasi

      @Trump Pence nah I'm serious. He's just like pewdiepie, he's overrated.

  • LS

    LS

    15 päeva tagasi

    Imagine showing this video and trying to explain it to someone from the 1700s

    • Re Covered

      Re Covered

      11 päeva tagasi

      @LS so there is this man that uses a highly powerful box filled with rubber, metal, and many colors to play a game. The game is inside the box, and he uses a picture frame that’s painting changes 60 times a second to see the game. The game can be beaten just like a joust, but you have to defeat a dragon instead of another fighter. The man saves every painting inside of his box to take and put onto another place called twitch. The man tries to beat the game as fast as possible by starting a game, collecting beds that are in the game, going to the game’s version of hell to collect eyes of dead monsters by trading with gold obsessed human-like pigs, leaving hell, and going to another place called “the end” where the dragon resides. Beds will blow up in the end, so the man puts beds down near the dragon to explode the dragon. That is the end of the game, but somewhere along the line the man cheated. He went inside his box to change the game to give him better luck trading with the gold obsessed human-like pigs. The pigs don’t understand you when you say “give me monster eyes”, so you have to trade gold until you get eyes. People noticed that the guy got a lot of luck trading with the gold obsessed human-like pigs. They told him to stop in another place called Twitter, but he wouldn’t admit it.

    • LS

      LS

      12 päeva tagasi

      @Abhigyan Dutta nah i was more talking about the video game/speed run/youtube part but thats interesting to know

    • Abhigyan Dutta

      Abhigyan Dutta

      13 päeva tagasi

      If you are talking about the probability part, ironically the maths behind this was developed in 17-1800s by correspondence between 2 very well known mathematicians applied to gambling.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      15 päeva tagasi

      Lmao

  • Art Nugget

    Art Nugget

    15 päeva tagasi

    so ive stayed away from this topic for a long time because i simply didnt care, but i finally caved in and watched a video on this. And you know what? I still dont care. I know everyone is making it a really big deal, and its a huge argument among his fans, but i kinda wish people didnt care that much y'know? Like yeah, cheating a speedrun and then submitting it isn't something you're supposed to do, thats bad, and i understand that people can feel hurt by this. But it feels like a lot of people are overreacting. Especially those who start hating dream or try to cancel him and all that. Like so what? He's still good at the game, he's still a good person, he's still entertaining. I sorta understand that it is a big deal in the speedrunnning community, but i wish so many of his fans didn't get so freaking upset, and completely change the way they look at him. I'm not saying this to try to start anything, but i wanted to express that i think people online tend to overreact sometimes and its exhausting.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      3 tundi tagasi

      @Vinegar I like him but I think he’s a lil scum bag for manipulating his fansbase

    • Vinegar

      Vinegar

      3 tundi tagasi

      To be honest, I've just never liked him, always gave off a bad vibe, you know. I get some satisfaction from feeling somewhat vindicated here.

    • Trump Pence

      Trump Pence

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Lil Hitler lmao

    • monke

      monke

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Art Nugget I definitely agree, I don't care about dream's manhunts or speedruns, All i watch is the dream smp videos where either tommy, quackity or bbh appear, I don't get bothered if dream is there too.

    • Lil Hitler

      Lil Hitler

      8 päeva tagasi

      @Trump Pence he manipulated fans his response got debunked on reddit

  • lousysmashbros

    lousysmashbros

    15 päeva tagasi

    lol, he deleted his video

    • morrow

      morrow

      10 päeva tagasi

      yeah it's private now, lol

    • lousysmashbros

      lousysmashbros

      11 päeva tagasi

      @Re Covered yeah, but he never said he would delete is response video, lol

    • Re Covered

      Re Covered

      11 päeva tagasi

      I think I heard something about in a deleted Twitter reply he confirmed he was guilty

    • Dhehehryr rirurururut

      Dhehehryr rirurururut

      14 päeva tagasi

      "Im innocent"

    • Mad Maniac

      Mad Maniac

      14 päeva tagasi

      He did, wow